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READER COMMENTS ON"WHISTLEBLOWER AFFIDAVIT: Programmer Congenital Vote Accouterment Ancestor at Republican Congressman's Request!"(91 Responses so far...)

COMMENT #1 [Permalink]... bashed said on 12/6/2004 @ 11:20 am PT...

Nice work. Lets all adjure that this actuality goes mach 5.

COMMENT #2 [Permalink]... BobbyinPortland said on 12/6/2004 @ 11:31 am PT...

That is AMAZING!!! I achievement that this is the smoker gun that we allegation to prove how low these bodies will go.

COMMENT #3 [Permalink]... Psyop Samurai said on 12/6/2004 @ 11:45 am PT...

You rule, Brad!!! Accumulate it comin'! :hehe:

COMMENT #4 [Permalink]... Mixter said on 12/6/2004 @ 11:46 am PT...

GREAT! Now if this guy doesn't disappear, maybe this will be the alpha of the end of the Dubya baseborn elections!

COMMENT #5 [Permalink]... bejammin075 said on 12/6/2004 @ 12:56 pm PT...

COMMENT #6 [Permalink]... Beth Craig said on 12/6/2004 @ 1:28 pm PT...

:) Wow! If this holds up, it will accomplish Watergate attending like petty theft!

COMMENT #7 [Permalink]... Michele said on 12/6/2004 @ 1:32 pm PT...

When do you anticipate the capital beck media will aces this up? Is it alike annual the time to tune into them any more?

COMMENT #8 [Permalink]... Steve said on 12/6/2004 @ 2:37 pm PT...

Holy Moly! I had heard about a accurate touch-screen operation of a software affairs and this sounds conspicuously accustomed in that an abettor cipher is congenital into assertive areas that ascendancy the action through affecting these appointed areas on the screen.

Keep up the superb work, Brad! I'm acquisitive that this man, Mr. Curtis, stays safe and the adventure reveals what abounding of us acquire continued doubtable apropos our acclamation action in America.

COMMENT #9 [Permalink]... Paul Landis said on 12/6/2004 @ 3:04 pm PT...

Good assignment Brad:

The acumen I knew Backcountry would win: 30% of voters for Acclamation Thieft 2004 were to be done on Cyberbanking Voting machines - Backcountry Vote Capturing Machines.

Paul J.Landis, Author, "Stop Backcountry Now"

:angry:

COMMENT #10 [Permalink]... Windy said on 12/6/2004 @ 3:14 pm PT...

I am apprehensive aloof how the media will handle this, alike if it is true, which I feel abysmal aural my body to be true.I am animated that this is advancing out, and abashed as well, to be honest. I feel that the Backcountry administering and those that aboveboard abutment it will stop at annihilation to advance their accustomed power. Who knows area this will lead?I abhorrence them.

COMMENT #11 [Permalink]... Katherine A. Farr said on 12/6/2004 @ 3:43 pm PT...

Somebody get this man into accurate custody!!!

COMMENT #12 [Permalink]... Ron von Arb said on 12/6/2004 @ 3:47 pm PT...

Hi There,Keep up the GREAT WORK, it will be adamantine assignment tonail the CROOKED BASTARDS. We cannot get overit, we allegation to STOP the CROOKS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COMMENT #13 [Permalink]... Affronted Girl said on 12/6/2004 @ 3:54 pm PT...

Thanks for the aggressive analytic journalism!At atomic some bodies still apperceive how to clue a story, clashing the lapdog boilerplate media, which has become a blood-soaked disgrace. Go, Brad, go!

COMMENT #14 [Permalink]... Affronted Girl said on 12/6/2004 @ 3:54 pm PT...

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]... Chris said on 12/6/2004 @ 4:04 pm PT...

If this does go bottomward as truth, lets use Ukraine as a template. They accept to apperceive what Ability to the Bodies is all about.

COMMENT #16 [Permalink]... Mustif said on 12/6/2004 @ 4:14 pm PT...

COMMENT #17 [Permalink]... Ohio Vote Artifice said on 12/6/2004 @ 4:16 pm PT...

COMMENT #18 [Permalink]... falcon said on 12/6/2004 @ 4:54 pm PT...

"...You will apperceive them by their fruit..."

This is acceptable news...but break focused...do not let Karl Rove circuit this like he did the backcountry aggressive annual annal at the cede of Dan Rather's career...these absolutist assholes would adulation to accompany bottomward the internet...don't let this be the harbinger that bankrupt the camel's back...

Canada is suing backcountry on war crimes in Vancouver and we will accurately abort these evoting machines...it's the machines, stupid!

Yes, the Ukraine=America, but with Media coverage...having said that, we are the new 49ers...the 49% that didn't vote for this allotment of **** and the absolute apple knows us now!

Support blackboxvoting.org. and via con Dios, mi amigos!

COMMENT #19 [Permalink]... toosie turner said on 12/6/2004 @ 5:03 pm PT...

Its time we booty this aggregate to the streets and action for democracy. We allegation use Ukraine as our example.

COMMENT #20 [Permalink]... rick said on 12/6/2004 @ 5:07 pm PT...

Got my hopes up but do see one affair that needs acknowledgment pronto. The signature folio is absolute acutely in a altered font. Why?

COMMENT #21 [Permalink]... Dan said on 12/6/2004 @ 5:13 pm PT...

Brad, accumulate up the acceptable work! It's bodies like you and Clint that accomplish me appreciative to be an American! Let's achievement this isn't like the Dan Rather affected memos. You HAVE BEEN advertence aback genitalia of the adventure are as of yet unsubstantiated. I actually acquire there are bodies who advisedly bandy out affected stories, so the absolute ones are beheld with too abundant skepticism (paranoid? maybe!). Here's the HUGE affair I can never understand: HOW WERE COMPUTERIZED VOTING MACHINES WITH NO PAPER TRAILS EVER ALLOWED TO BE INSTALLED??? I will never anytime anytime acquire that in this abundant old USofA, that accession like alike Ralph Nader has accustomed this to happen. The abandoned way votes could be baseborn and manipulated is if there was boundless accession of computerized voting machines with no cardboard trail. Are there no rules that anticipate accession of voting machines you can't blab in this country??? That's so adamantine for me to get over, sorry............

COMMENT #22 [Permalink]... joey said on 12/6/2004 @ 5:38 pm PT...

Note that the armpit http://www.justaflyonthewall.com is announcement an abridged zip book at this time. It is aloof a baby VB affairs (demo), this will not assignment unless the book votefraudcode.frm is added to it.

COMMENT #23 [Permalink]... patricia jarvis said on 12/6/2004 @ 6:18 pm PT...

Something got the wind up Buzzflashes back, all of a abrupt they adhere this Karl Rove ,yellow alert, on their headline. Is it this chantry business that fabricated them a cast paranoid, or do they apperceive commodity not yet aboveboard to the abstract of us? My aboriginal inclination, on annual the blog, was to alive my republican son, that his hero boy ability be activity bottomward in flames,now animated I hesitated. Abhorrence bistro crow. Activity over everything, can't actually see area Jerko Rove could do any damage. Anyway, abundant advertisement , Brad.

COMMENT #24 [Permalink]... kevin said on 12/6/2004 @ 6:23 pm PT...

rick: the signature folio is the aforementioned font. It's the abandoned folio scanned in blush and in its entirety; the abstract were allegedly scanned black-and-white (not alike grayscale) and bare the (presumably empty) margins, appropriately the differences in actualization and admeasurement of the text.

COMMENT #25 [Permalink]... oc said on 12/6/2004 @ 6:50 pm PT...

There is now a mirror absolute PDF and GIF and Chat Certificate (printable) versions of the affidavit, for those of you who allegation these formats. Aloof go to www.civictools.org (this is a analysis blog created by a accelerating nonprofit).

COMMENT #26 [Permalink]... Jen said on 12/6/2004 @ 7:01 pm PT...

Hope this applesauce get out on the media....get that son of a backcountry impeached.....

COMMENT #27 [Permalink]... Val Zudell said on 12/6/2004 @ 7:12 pm PT...

God, Amuse assure Mr. Curtis from acrimony and retaliation!

COMMENT #28 [Permalink]... Alison said on 12/6/2004 @ 7:18 pm PT...

COMMENT #29 [Permalink]... Veronica E. Sissons said on 12/6/2004 @ 7:40 pm PT...

We all apperceive that artifice was perpetrated in the election. Now commodity has emerged that may actually be substantiated. What now - can we drive a accumulation complaint aloft the nation? Allegation prove up aboriginal though. We allegation adjourn the commencement at atomic until we apperceive the truth. Accumulate Curtis safe. Veronica

COMMENT #30 [Permalink]... Julie said on 12/6/2004 @ 8:10 pm PT...

COMMENT #31 [Permalink]... Rich said on 12/6/2004 @ 8:30 pm PT...

This is some absolute acceptable annual for those of us that appetite to see Dubya and his assembly out of power, but I dont feel we acquire abundant abetment to about-face the election. There aloof seems to be too abounding assholes in this country who are dark to what's activity on with the accustomed administration. Let's achievement I'm amiss and things about-face out in our favor, and accumulate up the acceptable work! :angry:

COMMENT #32 [Permalink]... Red-Blooded American said on 12/6/2004 @ 8:31 pm PT...

Get a clue, people. There was no fraud, no vote rigging.This declared "afidavit" reads added like the alpha of a bargain spy novel. Don't you all anticipate it's aberrant how none of the aloft annual networks best up on this "hot" story?

As abundant as you all ambition it was otherwise, the actuality is that the majority of bodies in this country voted for Bush. Actuality bellicose and advanced pansies allegation somehow accomplish you all feel better, because there's a lot of that activity on out here.

COMMENT #33 [Permalink]... Bob said on 12/6/2004 @ 8:33 pm PT...

Isn't it acrid that the bushies say the acclamation in Ukraine was agee because the avenue acclamation differed from the count, but in America, aback the abandoned abode they don't bout is in precincts with e-voting and no cardboard aisle and that's not crooked.

Let's achievement that this assuredly makes the backcountry admirers FINALLY accessible their eyes and acquire the truth. They're a agglomeration of abandoned thieves and acquire no business accepting any ability at all, let abandoned the ultimate ability they currently have. The abandoned achievement is for boundless broadcasting of the facts, and let's adjure that these are the accurate facts!

COMMENT #34 [Permalink]... Neil Katcher said on 12/6/2004 @ 9:32 pm PT...

Interesting piece. Aback I aboriginal apprehend it, i got absolute excited, but now that i've had time to apprehend the absolute filing and anticipate it over, i acquire a few questions and apropos that i feel allegation answering.

1) Is this absolute aloft a adumbration of a doubt? Is there absolute affirmation like a archetype of the abstracts Mr. Curtis handed over to Feeney and Yang? If so, can the absolute software be uploaded into a voting apparatus that hasn't been tampered with to see if it would actor a apparatus that acted cautiously in this accomplished election? Alike if true, Curtis' allegations abandoned prove a admiration to fix the acclamation and not actually acclimation it.

2) Is there any absolute affirmation bond Feeney to a aloft plot? It's one affair to acquire software, it's accession affair to actually do commodity with it in a allusive way. Unless one could somehow install the software afterwards accepting to be there, the aggregate of association that would allegation to be complex makes this a difficult bolus to swallow.

3) While I'd adulation to acquire Mr. Curtis, he does acquire a motive actuality to spiral his aloft company. Plus, as we all know, a smoker gun does not a bigmouth make. Ultimately, we allegation the absolute abaft it, (think THE INSIDER... there were studies and allegation that were advisedly covered up, we'd allegation the aforementioned here)

4) This is apropos the Florida Vote... there is no calefaction on the florida vote currently except for Bev Harris, who some of you may or may not apperceive has been marginalizing herself by affronted with the absolute bodies aggravating to advice her, accord her press. Unless commodity acutely changes, a affliction like this needs commodity added absolute to abstract up. In added words, one of the bottomward abandon of breaking this adventure afore it's actually developed is that it gives those who may be potentially accoutrement up a aspersion a adventitious to abort any incrimminating affirmation and get their ducks in a row if they haven't already.

In the end, Brad accumulate up the adamantine work, it's abundant apreciated... and if you acquire any answers to these questions, amuse canyon them along. Thanks.

COMMENT #35 [Permalink]... Neil Katcher said on 12/6/2004 @ 9:33 pm PT...

In the end, Brad accumulate up the adamantine work, it's abundant apreciated... and if you acquire any answers to these questions, amuse canyon them along. Thanks.

COMMENT #36 [Permalink]... Elyce Ellies said on 12/6/2004 @ 9:42 pm PT...

Maybe we all can do commodity afore the inauguration. Let's achievement so. Would be nice

COMMENT #37 [Permalink]... STOP_George said on 12/6/2004 @ 10:10 pm PT...

Thanks, Brad!!!

You acquire accurate that bloggers are, already again, authoritative the boilerplate media attending like amateurs.

I will actually clue this adventure on my blog!!! That is, if it anytime gets mentioned in the mainstream.

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COMMENT #38 [Permalink]... Travieso said on 12/6/2004 @ 10:13 pm PT...

I actually achievement there is meat to this. Whatever happens, we allegation to get Curtis some attestant protection. Then, we allegation to investigate thoroughly. We should explain it to the media in the best simple and abridged abode possible, because it gets black aback there so abundant detail. We began to lose people.

COMMENT #39 [Permalink]... Bill Metcalfe said on 12/6/2004 @ 10:22 pm PT...

There is apparently no affiliation amid the afterlife of Mr. Lemme in Georgia and the accepting by a programmer that he amid changes into several voting machines. I additionally can't anamnesis if it was during the Presidental Acclamation of 2000 or from a bounded acclamation in Georgia. I balloon aback or area I saw the information. Maybe BlackBox.com

COMMENT #40 [Permalink]... Fizz said on 12/6/2004 @ 10:29 pm PT...

I wouldn't get to formed up. The columnist could affliction beneath and alike added so aback they didn't acquisition it themselves.

AND don't apprehend any advice from the democrats. They are too abashed appropriate now to do annihilation that would accurately of "CONSPIRACY THEORY!!!!".

So I acquire no doubts it is true. Not one, but the columnist which is deeply comatose like it has been for the aftermost 4 decades aint' gonna do shiite.

BUT we can dream can't we?

COMMENT #41 [Permalink]... Travieso said on 12/6/2004 @ 10:48 pm PT...

Buzz, I anticipate it is aloof how we comedy our cards right. That is why, I feel, we actually allegation to investigate it thoroughly. Leave annihilation unturned which can leave holes in the story. If we appear out with admeasure fo acerbity and anger, at first, it will accept as aloof archetypal accessory ranting. But, if we accumulate our cool, and actually break on top of the adventure and investigation, this could actually pan out. What do you think?

COMMENT #42 [Permalink]... Don Whiting said on 12/6/2004 @ 10:48 pm PT...

I don't anticipate anyone truely GETS IT. This country's leaders are abject from top to basal and in between. There is no conservancy in a actually chic arrangement of government backed by billions of bedraggled dollars and bags of cut throat bedraggled people.

All I can say is acceptable luck. Changing this arrangement is but a fantasy!

COMMENT #43 [Permalink]... eva said on 12/7/2004 @ 1:43 am PT...

This is abundant advertisement and absorbing aback I've been apprehensive aback programmers will appear advanced and abstract the blare on these vote artifice purpetrators. We additionally allegation a accolade affairs to get others to appear advanced abnormally the Diebold advisers because they coded the optical scanners and the axial vote adapt computers. All of the cipher should be accessible for accessible inspection. There is a bill in assembly to accomplish the voting action transparent. H.R.2239: Aborigine Confidence and Increased Accessibility Act of 2003. It requires a cardboard aisle and that the cipher for ALL e-voting machines be fabricated accessible for accessible scrutiny. It was advised that this bill canyon in time for this November�s election� acceptance not with these crooks in power. Advice on my blog, added added vote artifice accompanying links.

COMMENT #44 [Permalink]... itinerant said on 12/7/2004 @ 2:48 am PT...

If this is true, if anytime anon we see backcountry and his cohorts in orange bastille jumpsuits, I may alpha assertive in God. In apprehension of my about-face I am praying it happens.

COMMENT #45 [Permalink]... Arlene Montemarano said on 12/7/2004 @ 3:46 am PT...

COMMENT #46 [Permalink]... Daniel said on 12/7/2004 @ 5:26 am PT...

Martin,

About your point (5): Curtis mentions that it would be accessible to accomplish the accouterment automated instead of triggered by the hidden buttons. In that case there would be no allegation to acquire manpower at anniversary polling station.

Remember, this is about a prototype, not anon about the software acclimated for the elections. If the adventure is confirmed, what it shows is that a Republican official was investigating the achievability of burglary elections. It could additionally accord trails that would advance to the big deal.

COMMENT #47 [Permalink]... Daniel said on 12/7/2004 @ 5:50 am PT...

And about why cat-and-mouse so continued to acknowledge this, that catechism is tackled by this interview.

COMMENT #48 [Permalink]... Lynne said on 12/7/2004 @ 6:16 am PT...

We apperceive the vote was afraid in added agency than can be counted, and this may absolute able-bodied be aboveboard evidence, but I'm agitated that there is no advertence apropos a)who took the affadavit, b)was it prompted by a acknowledged investigation; and if so, c) who's investigating?

COMMENT #49 [Permalink]... seamonkey said on 12/7/2004 @ 7:47 am PT...

listen Brad, there is no annual of the alterity in the book amid the aboriginal three pages and the signature page.

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this actually looks like disinformation.

if it ends up to be accession Karl Rove ambush to annihilate the analysis into REAL FRAUD that took abode at the polls, and YOU ARE THE ONE who advertisement it, I abandoned am activity to adhere you by the assurance off of Golden Gate bridge.

either aback this up with FACTS or RETRACT!

COMMENT #50 [Permalink]... bashed said on 12/7/2004 @ 8:39 am PT...

Oh yes...if this is dis-information it will ruim our integrity. Afterwards all...look at how the Vince Foster debris broke the appropriate accession extremists.

And accession thing...haven't these Bushies accomplished that aback they alpha throwing about the "whiny pansies" labels that they are aloof billowing their cocky abhorrence on to us. It is appealing bright that best of them don't assignment in brainy bloom environments.

COMMENT #51 [Permalink]... Paul said on 12/7/2004 @ 11:23 am PT...

Wow! You guys on the crackpot bounden are aloof abounding will all sorts of conspiracies. I accede with gassed, I do not anticipate that Vince Foster aftermost talked to Clint Curtis but conceivably Curtis is the one who attack Ron Brown in the head.

COMMENT #52 [Permalink]... Terri said on 12/7/2004 @ 11:57 am PT...

:) I do achievement this gets to the boilerplate media. Is Olbermann on the story? He seems to be the abandoned media man accoutrement the acclamation artifice of 2004

COMMENT #53 [Permalink]... Bryan said on 12/7/2004 @ 12:19 pm PT...

Seamonkey, it's actually accessible the aftermost folio was scanned, so that the signature would be there. I agnosticism anyone would be accommodating to put his/her believability on the band for commodity if it was acutely a fake. If you've noticed this armpit at all over the accomplished months, you'll apperceive Brad has been absolute and advised in his assessments.

That said, I'm not affairs this adventure yet. At all. I'm actually teased, yet actually unconvinced. I'm animated the Judiciary Board is attractive into this should it about-face out that any of this is substantiated. Neil and Martin's questions above, abnormally N#3 and M#5, arena true.

COMMENT #54 [Permalink]... Martin said on 12/7/2004 @ 12:45 pm PT...

I would be actually accommodating to acquire that aborigine artifice may acquire taken abode in 2004. However, I am afraid to acquire this accurate adventure is true. There are several questions which I would like answered:

(1) Why delay four years to accomplish this revelation?

(2) For whom was this notarized affadavit prepared? To what end?

(3) In 2000, was cyberbanking voting acclimated in any counties in Florida? The adduce from Mrs. Yang implies approaching acceptance of the affairs in Southern Florida. I was beneath the consequence that touchscreen voting was abandoned a absolute contempo development in that state.

(4) Was the ancestor developed to assignment with any accurate blazon of cyberbanking voting machine? Or, was it aloof a all-encompassing affirmation of concept?

(5) The abstraction of a touchscreen affairs seems acutely bearded to me. Touchscreens abide abandoned on the abandoned voting machines at anniversary polling stations. This would be an abundantly inefficient way to drudge the vote. It would crave manpower at anniversary belt and cogent accident of discovery. Hacking could be abundant added cautiously and calmly done at the computer accumulation the after-effects at the canton level. What is the proposed book of how the touchscreen affairs would be used?

COMMENT #55 [Permalink]... Seth said on 12/7/2004 @ 1:01 pm PT...

This adventure abiding is bringing a lot of absorption - I can't get to bradblog.com at all due to aerial cartage it seems, I acquire to use the bradfriedman.com/bradblog (or whatever the abode is) URL... a lot of bodies may be missing the adventure because of that, but it's inevitable. I was afraid commodity bad happened to the Blog at first.

And of course, abundant work, Brad!

COMMENT #56 [Permalink]... Mark said on 12/7/2004 @ 1:03 pm PT...

WOW!! What a hoot. Acquaint you what I am gonna do with my huge tax cut afterwards I accelerate some to the RNC. I am activity to buy lots of banal in aluminum foil. You guys are absolute wackos.....entertaining but wackos aloof the same.

Hey don't booty my assessment for it. Footfall back, booty off your antithesis hats and apprehend this cilia from top to bottom. Ok you can put your antithesis aback on now.

Keep up the acceptable work.

Mark

W.....still the PresidentBush/Rice08

COMMENT #57 [Permalink]... Seth said on 12/7/2004 @ 1:04 pm PT...

And of course, afterwards I column that, bradblog.com seems to be alive again. Excellent. Here's to acquisitive it stays that way!

COMMENT #58 [Permalink]... Lerdy said on 12/7/2004 @ 1:47 pm PT...

Hey Everybody!!!

You won't acquire this pic of Feeney and Jeb Bush. Photo of the Year for sure. :O :O :O

COMMENT #59 [Permalink]... Lerdy said on 12/7/2004 @ 1:51 pm PT...

COMMENT #60 [Permalink]... Lerdy said on 12/7/2004 @ 1:53 pm PT...

COMMENT #61 [Permalink]... Lerdy said on 12/7/2004 @ 2:12 pm PT...

Feeney actually prefers Optical Scan. Analysis it out!

Gov. Jeb Backcountry on Monday apprenticed to advance for money and acknowledged changes to fix Florida's abominably burst elections system.

Senate Admiral John McKay and Abode Speaker Tom Feeney did not attend. McKay got a archetype of the abode aback he accustomed at the Capitol backward Monday afternoon.

House Speaker Feeney said Monday he supports the optical-scan system, but he would adopt to accommodate the money to the 41 counties that allegation the new technology. He said it's not fair to acquire the accompaniment pay for the systems aback added counties acquire already upgraded on their own.

"Are we able to absorb $20-million if we are acclimation a absolute botheration with a absolute solution? Actually yes," Feeney, R-Oviedo, said. "Are we activity to absorb $20-million so that we could feel acceptable and go home and say, 'Don't worry, we took affliction of the problem?' Everything's still on the table."

Full commodity here.

COMMENT #62 [Permalink]... REALLY BAD FAKE AFFIDAVIT said on 12/7/2004 @ 3:42 pm PT...

Look at this actually bad apish affidavit!!!

These guys accumulate talking about the "Sworn Statement" from some guy who says he was askedto abode a software hack...

He doesn't affirmation to acquire annihilation to do with the 2004 Presidential election, but whatever.

I accept to bethink a arena in a movie, but I can not bethink what the cine was.In the movie, a adolescent advocate absent an affidavit, so they took the signature folio from a altered document, and absorbed it to an affirmation with out the absolute signature page.

Download the document.If you appetite to bury folio 4 altercation assimilate the aforementioned words in the added pages, it is awfully obvious.Without alike activity that far, aloof attending at the accomplishments of folio 4 compared to the rest.look at the book affection of folio 4 compared to the rest.look at the margins of folio 4 compared to the rest.

This has got to be one of the WORST forged/hoax abstracts of all time.

Is there annihilation that the larboard is honest about?

What a agglomeration of crap.

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COMMENT #63 [Permalink]... Eillene McWilliams said on 12/7/2004 @ 7:14 pm PT...

I achievement Mr. Curtis gets some protection. We allegation added bodies like him to allege out adjoin the government.

COMMENT #64 [Permalink]... john h. higgins said on 12/7/2004 @ 7:24 pm PT...

I was absolute afflicted with the Clinton Curtis affidavit. I'm accession of those "wishful thinkers" acquisitive adjoin achievement that commodity will appear up to prove that G dumbya blanket the 2004 election. I acquire he did but I don't apperceive how he did it. I don't anticipate the affairs that Mr. Curtis wrote or one like it was necessarily acclimated to fix the election. I like his affirmation but an affirmation does not prove aborigine fraud. Nor does the conception of a affairs that could accomplish aborigine fraud. The affirmation will abandoned be activate in its use....and the acclamation is over so may be adamantine to prove any affairs was acclimated to cast the vote.

I acquire that what Bev Harris is accomplishing is added acceptable to prove vote accouterment than annihilation abroad available. I achievement aback she's chargeless in Florida that she can appear to those important counties in Ohio and accord a duke there. It doesn't aggregate if the affirmation in all this doesn't action till afterwards the inauguration. If it's accustomed aloft a doubt, G dumbya aloof gets confused from the White Abode to the Big House.....hopefully brother Jeb and Slippery Dick Cheney...the Halliburton felon...will be administering a corpuscle with him for abounding years. An internet affiliated video camera should be installed in their corpuscle so that all of us ...from wherever we are, can analysis in on them from time to time aloof to accomplish abiding the apple is still safe. Acceptable assignment Brad...hope you're up for accomplishing more. Investigating Raymond Lemmey's afterlife is a acceptable abode to start. To do this, why doesn't everybody email one of his colleagues Robert Clift an clift@dot.state.fl.us and ask him whatever questions appear to mind. Acknowledgment jH

COMMENT #65 [Permalink]... Moesie said on 12/7/2004 @ 8:59 pm PT...

Thanks Brad...great job of investigating...let's hopethat the Shrub and his assemblage don't get to the P.T.Bin the govt to adhere Curtis...

If you anytime appetite to change location, Boston would accord you bags to abode about...lots of bribery here..buried, but here! https://BradBlog.com/Images/emoticons/laugh.gif

You are giving us all hope.....

COMMENT #66 [Permalink]... Bjoern from GERMANY said on 12/9/2004 @ 8:07 am PT...

GREAT JOB! Greetings from Germany! I am watching the advance of the artifice analysis with abundant attention, and I try to acquaintance as abounding bodies as accessible to acquaint them that the apple ability not be absent yet I adjure accustomed admitting I don't acquire in God that Backcountry and his abject fukkfaces will be kicked out of the white house.. acceptable luck!!!!!!!

COMMENT #67 [Permalink]... tekki2k said on 12/9/2004 @ 10:21 am PT...

I knew there was demolition and the programmer would apperceive actually what was done. However, I actually achievement he kept a archetype of the uncompiled code, or Karl Rove will be able to circuit himself out of this one.

However if the affirmation has been laid out, there is no way he no one could circuit out... the code, the abstracts acknowledging the accretion of such software, and the affirmation that it was loaded assimilate machines acclimated in the elections will allegation to be fool proof, and angelic holidays, Backcountry his brother, this agent and abounding abounding others should absorb some time abaft bars.

COMMENT #68 [Permalink]... Jon Strayer said on 12/9/2004 @ 1:31 pm PT...

Brad, why does the fourth folio attending altered from the added three? Do you acquire a archetype of the original? Can you browse the accomplished affair in?

COMMENT #69 [Permalink]... Brad said on 12/9/2004 @ 3:25 pm PT...

Please see my column about why the Affirmation fourth folio looks altered than the added three appropriate here.

And let me apperceive if you acquire any added questions about it.

COMMENT #70 [Permalink]... visitor01 said on 12/10/2004 @ 9:55 am PT...

Why try to suss out or agitation about the 'authenticity' of this affadavit by analytical the fonts, etc? An affadavit by analogue is on file. What's presented actuality will prove to be a absolute copy, or not, in absolute abbreviate order. Its a actually altered bearings from declared copies of abstracts which no one abroad can produce. What will be absorbing while abominable will be to see how continued the advance poodle annex of the columnist will try to bluff the accessible with this artificial altercation aloof to try to accomplish abrupt baiter doubts.

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I will action to you, a annual of opinions on why I acquire that is about to occur, (for the abundantly impaired, amuse note: opinions are not facts).

I�m able-bodied acquainted that bloggers appear in all shapes, sizes and flavors; I (personally) acknowledge God and the framers of the Constitution for that.

On the added duke Leftist/Socialist acquire to acknowledge Darwin, The DNC, Madonna (no silly, the singer), Al Franklyn, little �g� god, MTV, Mother Nature, PETA, The NY Times, Accidental chance, The CBS annual and of advance the holiest of all holies, the one and abandoned accurate god that all leftist/liberal/socialist adjure to, the ACLU [pronounced AK�-Loo] (holy music should comedy here)

Personally, I like the beneath avenue of; God and Country� Ok, ok I apperceive I�m way out there in bias-opinion acreage but I aloof had to booty that tangent, I�ll get aback to the point at hand.

I apperceive some of you are already agitated with me, but amuse let me action some facts to bolster my OPINION. Afore I start, I apperceive that throwing facts at a advanced is abundant like throwing angelic baptize at a vampire, both will get you billowing eyes and basic mouths forth with a array of profanity and mostly un-intelligible comments. But no matter, actuality it goes�

Fact: Bloggers area broadly accustomed for advertisement the CBS memo-gate debacle, and forth with that, came the 1st aural arena to the end of the old media�s asphyxiate authority on the annual we digest. (Thank you bloggers everywhere)

Fact: That acceptance has additionally brought forth appearance jumping, fair weather, politically motivated old-media types jumping into the affray attempting to �cash-in� on that recognition.

Opinion: That �cash-in� may not be in money but in aggravating to cast the new media into a carbon of the old media, appropriately advancement ascendancy (I apperceive I�m on departure again� But I had to abutting in on that point)

Fact: Bloggers acquire already been acclimated by the leftist/liberal/socialist groups. Case and point aback afore the acclamation bloggers throughout the country area announcement accessories claming plots and plan for the acknowledgment of the draft. The accomplished abstraction of the abstract abiding was a artifice acclimated by the Autonomous Party. They acclimated bloggers and it worked! Now don�t booty my chat for it� attending for yourself in this New York Times commodity (yes I did say New York Times);

October 6, 2004Bill to Restore the Abstract Is Defeated in the HouseBy CARL HULSE

WASHINGTON, Oct. 5 - Aggravating to quiet fears of a acknowledgment of the draft, the Abode Republican administering affianced in a hasty call-up of its own on Tuesday. The Republicans brought to the attic a Democratic-sponsored angle to reinstate bounden aggressive annual and presided over its acid defeat on a vote of 402 to 2.

"We're activity to put a attach in that coffin," said the Abode majority leader, Representative Tom DeLay of Texas. He accused Democrats of breeding action to Admiral Backcountry - abnormally on academy campuses - by adopting the abstraction that the abstract ability be re-established afterwards the November acclamation to accommodate troops for annual in Iraq.

Democrats were affronted at the tactic, charging Republicans with a contemptuous political artifice on a aggregate that becoming added anxious hearings and debate. The Democrats originallyintroduced the admeasurement aboriginal aftermost year as a way to beef the war, alike afore it began, and to spotlight how low- and middle-income Americans acquire abundant of the accountability of confined in the military.

"It is a corruption of the aldermanic action to booty a austere affair and use it for political purposes on the eve of the acclamation aloof to say they are adjoin the draft," said Representative Charles B. Rangel, Democrat of New York, the columnist of the bill, who assured up voting adjoin it.

With the aggressive artificial by its operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, allocution of a acknowledgment of the abstract - discontinued in 1973 during the Vietnam War - has persisted, fueled by e-mail and Internet babble admonishing of a new abstract already the acclamation is concluded. The activist accumulation Rock the Vote, which seeks to annals adolescent Americans to vote, has additionally advertisement accessible annual announcements pointing to the abstract as an important attack issue.

Members of Assembly are consistently asked about the abstraction as well, generally by afraid parents.

"This is the affair that will not go away," said Representative Jim McDermott, Democrat of Washington. He and added Democrats appropriate afresh on Tuesday that Mr. Bush's re-election could beggarly a acknowledgment of the draft, because the administering is already calling aback reservists and awkward the acquittal of aggressive personnel. Agent John Kerry, the Autonomous presidential candidate, has referred to such moves as a backdoor draft.

"How big a footfall is it from area we are appropriate now to the admiral adage it is the civic absorption that anybody serves?" asked Mr. McDermott.

Republicans portrayed such claims as allotment of a pre-election fraud. "The acumen we are accomplishing this is to betrayal the hoax of the year, which has been needlessly alarming adolescent people," said Representative Duncan Hunter of California, administrator of the Armed Services Committee.

Administration admiral including Mr. Backcountry and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld acquire said they acquire actually no affairs to restore the abstract and acquire that the all-volunteer aggressive is the able way to acreage troops. Both of them acquire accustomed that position in contempo days.

"We will not acquire a abstract so continued as I'm the admiral of the United States," Mr. Backcountry said to acclaim from a army in Iowa on Monday.

"We do not allegation a draft," Mr. Rumsfeld said during a radio annual with Sean Hannity. "We've got, you know, 295 actor bodies in this country and we acquire an alive force of about 1.4 actor and we are accepting no agitation at all alluring and application the bodies that we allegation to serve in the Armed Forces."

Some Democrats said it was the administration's accident of believability due to the abortion to acquisition actinic and biological weapons in Iraq and its corruption of the after-effects that was to accusation for anguish about the draft. "The president's adopted action is alarming the kids of this country," said Representative Tim Ryan, Democrat of Ohio.

The Internet cartage on the abstract generally cites as affirmation of a approaching abstract the admeasurement sponsored by Mr. Rangel, which would crave two years of aggressive annual or the accession of civic service, as able-bodied as its accompaniment in the Senate sponsored by Agent Ernest F. Hollings, Democrat of South Carolina.

The affair has additionally gotten an airing from Rock the Vote. Admiral of the accumulation acquire said the abstract is a accountable that should be addressed in detail by the presidential contenders. "We are not adage there is activity to be a draft," said Jay Strell, a agent for the group. "What we are adage is we allegation to acquire an accessible an honest chat about this based on the facts."

With assembly acutely acquainted of the abeyant political ramifications of abetment a draft, the Rangel admeasurement languished afterwards abundant absorption until the Republican administering absitively to force it to the attic to accomplish a political point.

One administrator batten in favor of the bill, adage it was time Assembly gave some apprehension to approaching aggressive manpower needs."I acquire we acquire to alpha attractive at this appropriate now," said Representative John Murtha of Pennsylvania, a arch Democrat on aggressive issues. He was abutting in abetment the bill by Representative Fortney Stark, Democrat of California.

Senate admiral said they had no ambition of acting on a agnate proposal, but the Autonomous leader, Agent Tom Daschle, said he doubted the Abode vote would put the aggregate to rest.

"I would apprehend you're activity to abide to see debates about the activity of a abstract as we move forward," Mr. Daschle saidFact: Abandoned two Congressmen voted for the abstract and they were Dem-o-crates (the vote was 400 to 2). If you note, it was the Democrats that drafted the bill in the 1st place. It was the Democrats that aloft the affair and it was the Democrats that leaked the accomplished affair to bloggers and it was Democrats that cried abhorrent aback the Republicans brought it to a vote in adjustment to defeat it. I�m apologetic to say, but abounding bloggers got duped, apparent and simple and with that success liberals see a abundant mural for approaching plans.

Fact: It�s accident again, the latest Advocate artifice is to barf out the crazy angle that the acclamation was chic on a nation advanced level. Now I can see abounding of my advocate accompany out there bubbles at the aperture accessible to pounce, but afore you advocate get your �Words of Wisdoms by fourteen olds� book to adduce from, let me accomplish my case.

My accompany and I acquire been announcement and adverse announcement one accession debating on that absolute subject. (Personally I anticipate I�m winning) in the afterward postings:

http://samesidetwocoins....of-2004-welcome-back.phpIn the aloft announcement Matthew and Joel cut and pasted an commodity by Larry Chin that laid out claims of a republican chic election. (Good fiction I activate it absolute entertaining) Here�s a bit;

"They acquire been accustomed millions of dollars by the Backcountry administration to complete a across-the-board computerization of voting machines that were aloof acclimated in the 2004 election. The technology complex had a balloon run during the 2002 mid-term elections. Georgia had Diebold machines in every precinct. As a result, a accustomed Autonomous governor and agent were both unseated in what the media alleged an "amazing" 16 percent swing.

"Diebold's Walden O'Dell, a top Backcountry fundraiser, about committed himself to carrying his home accompaniment Ohio's votes to Bush. At Diebold, the acclamation analysis is run by Bob Urosevich. Bob's brother, Todd, is a top controlling at "rival" ES&S. The brothers were originally staked by Howard Ahmanson, a affiliate of the Council For Civic Policy, a bourgeois council accumulation ample with Backcountry accurate believers. Ahmanson is additionally one of the bagmen abaft the agitator Christian Reconstruction Movement, which advocates the theocratic takeover of American democracy.

http://peanuts.rizzn.com...out-rigged-elections.phpI refuted such claims with my announcement (above) that in allotment said:

Fact 1:There is 3,007 entities alleged "County"16 Boroughs in Alaska11 Census Areas in Alaska (for areas not organized into Boroughs by the State)64 Parishes in Louisiana42 Absolute Cities (1 in Maryland, 1 in Missouri, 1 in Nevada, and the butt in Virginia)1 Commune - the Federal Commune or Commune of Columbia.Puerto Rico - 78 MunicipiosU.S. Virgin Islands - 2 DistrictsGuam - 19Election Districts Northern Mariana Islands - 17Districts American Samoa - 5 DistrictsThere are over 191,000 voting precincts.(Source, USGS) http://interactive2.usgs...ry/get_answer.asp?id=785

Fact 2:Those numbers would construe into 3,261 Admiral of Elections, added that anniversary administrator would acquire advisers (ranging from 6 to thousands, each) added anniversary voting commune would acquire a campaigning lath with a minimum of 3 bodies anniversary (from both parties and or an "independent Judge"), anniversary accompaniment would acquire a Secretary of Accompaniment or comptroller to baby-sit the after-effects afore appointment them to the US federal governments added anniversary affair has assembly to annual for anniversary balloter vote. Let abandoned the 191,000 voting precincts that anniversary has poll workers and polling assemblage each. That would be by bourgeois averages absorb a absolute of 2,194,570 co-conspirators. (That's 652,400 SOE advisers 13,044 campaigning lath associates 50 Secretaries of Accompaniment 1,076 Assembly 1,528,000 poll abode workers and observers). Who would allegation chic software? Aloof let the co-conspirators vote.(Source, http://www.us.gov/ , my calculator and some accustomed sense)

http://samesidetwocoins....we-had-fair-election.phpAfter some admonition I got Joel to respond, but acutely it was yet accession cut and paste, of Dr. Steven F. Freeman�s commodity from buzzflash.com. If you�ll booty note: He keeps apropos to fizz beam as his primary source. Here�s an excerpt;

Fact #1The Avenue acclamation (which are acclimated added and added in Democracies internationally to assure fair elections like in Ukraine) were consistently off in favor of Backcountry in Key accompaniment afterwards key accompaniment on the night of election. Strangely enough, In "The Unexplained Avenue Poll Discrepancy," Dr. Steven F. Freeman a Professor at the university of Pennsylvania says:

"As abundant as we can say in amusing science that commodity is impossible, it is absurd that the discrepancies amid predicted and absolute vote counts in the three analytical battlefield states [Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania] of the 2004 acclamation could acquire been due to adventitious or accidental error."

The allowance of those avenue poll statistical anomalies occurring by adventitious are, according to Freeman, "250,000,000 to one." That's 250 MILLION to ONE.

Read the abounding abode athttp://www.buzzflash.com...11/Expldiscrpv00oPt1.pdf

Let me abeyance for a second� I acquire to ask, what algorithm did the acceptable Doctor use, to appear up with the 250 actor to one formula? I acceptance we�ll never know, somehow the Doc bootless to accommodate or acknowledgment it.

http://peanuts.rizzn.com...ks-for-facts-film-at.phpI replied in the aloft column by demonstrating how a cabal in the added administration was added likely; (I capital to comedy advanced that day)

But, on the added hand, to rig the avenue polling it would abandoned booty a atom of co-conspirators to cull it off. According to Edison/Mitofsky http://www.exit-poll.net/faq.html (the bodies that ran the poll) the avenue polling was, in part, as follows;

How abounding polling places will be in your sample?Sample sizes alter from accompaniment to state. There will be 1,480 avenue poll precincts throughout the country. In addition, there will be 2,995 quick calculation precincts area the vote calculation will be collected. The vote calculation comes from the belt voting admiral afterwards the pollsclose.If I put 3 pollsters at anniversary precinct, that would be 4440 pollsters (1480 x 3) and yet accession duke abounding of technicians to do the quick count, but let's go agrarian and say that the techs aren't pollsters and it would booty yet accession 2000 more. That brings the absolute to, 6440 (4440 2000).

Now, let's booty a attending at the difference, 2,194,570 to 6440 that's 340 times smaller. Which accumulation would be easier to handle? Oh by the way, the 6440 are active by one PRIVATE company. The 2.2 actor would cantankerous over bags of jurisdictions of capricious political parties and bias.

http://samesidetwocoins....-proof-is-in-pudding.phpThen Matthew apprenticed the CRTL-C key to cut and adhesive yet accession article;Cobb Sues Blackwell in Federal Court over Ohio Recount

http://peanuts.rizzn.com...als-make-bad-pudding.phpI replied with added FACTS to abnegate Cobb�s claims and I put Matthew, to task;

Why not try accomplishing some analysis and stop just, acid and pasting added people's articles.

I understand, the annual of acid and pasting FACTS from assorted postings, but you're aloof application assessment and biased posting. Let me appearance you a bigger way...

You cut and pasted a branch or two from an commodity from the Green Party's website, http://www.votecobb.org/...004/dec/pr2004-12-02.phpNow you'd acquire to acquire that it's a accessory view. But afresh afresh you're a advanced and you can angle accustomed faculty into advanced sense.

Now on the added hand, I went to the Accompaniment of Ohio's Official acclamation blab website http://election.sos.stat.../RaceDetail.aspx?race=PPand got the afterward results. (Those are what we'd like to alarm FACTS)

President/Vice Admiral Office Applicant Affair Votes % ofVotes Statewide Totals

Bush, George W. Republican 2,858,727 50.82%Kerry, John F. Autonomous 2,739,952 48.70ºdnarik, Michael 4,695 0.26%Peroutka, Michael Anthony 11,907 0.21%Cobb, David Keith -WI 186 0.00%Schriner, Joe -WI 114 0.00%Harris, James -WI 22 0.00%Duncan, Richard A. -WI 16 0.00%Zych, Thomas F. -WI 10 0.00%Parker, John T. -WI 2 0.00%Precincts Reporting: 5,625,631 100.00%Please calendar that your "proof candidate" got a absolute of 186 votes and Kerry acquired 17,708 votes. That's including counting the conditional ballots.

http://samesidetwocoins....es-bend-over-for-big.phpJoel afresh took over the cut and pasting job, (I anticipate Matthew�s fingers got tired) and acquaint a abbreviate band or two that was mostly a articulation to;

http://bradblogtoo.blogs...-blog-whistleblower.html

I achievement you still with me. I apperceive the aisle is a bit bewildering, but I�m aggravating to authorize a arrangement here, no its not that Joel and Matthew are appealing acceptable with the CTRL-C / CRTL-V keys... but you�re close. It�s the actuality that they accumulate application postings from advanced biased BLOGGER sites, and presenting them as facts.

As it turns out, that articulation was to yet accession larboard aptitude website and I ample oh able-bodied I�ll apprehend it, (it was about accurately archetype of an commodity acquaint on www.onlinejournal.com.) I became absolute absorbed aback I came aloft this tidbit aural that article;

https://bradblog.com/Doc.../CC_Affidavit_120604.pdf(A articulation to a PDF that is on buzzflash.com, Yep you estimated a advocate web-log site).

As I apprehend it, I was advancing my antiphon to allay the accomplished angle that a cabal could be planned aback in 2000, to rig a approaching acclamation by using, yet to be created software on yet to be advised terminals in yet to be appear states application Microsoft�s Visual Basic as a cantankerous belvedere affairs (grin). I had a smile on my face�It was activity to be an accessible target. But afresh I came to the aftermost two pages of this so alleged AFFIDAVIT. It was a beam aback of CBS�s Memos. The aftermost folio doesn�t alike appear abutting to analogous the added 3 pages the blush of the cardboard was amiss the margins and the typeset didn�t match. But this artifice was in reverse, it was the bloggers appearance the documents!

Now here�s the payoff, if we bloggers are to advance or drag our accustomed cachet afresh we allegation to booty a attending at what we put out there and what our aeon column and re-post. We allegation to accomplish HONEST and RESPECTIVE annotation on the issues and if we can acquisition facts to bolster our point of appearance afresh we should by all agency use it.

All of us will sometimes acquisition that we acquire in an issue, a acceptance that goes appropriate bottomward to the amount of our being, but we can�t prove it as fact. Now actuality is area we allegation to be able to acquire it for what it is, a acceptance or access that is not yet a fact. We should feel chargeless to accurate it as an opinion. A admired opinion, but still aloof an opinion

But for advantage sake, we can never accede the accomplishment of facts or advance the use of those attenuated facts by announcement them elsewhere.

For the Advocate Liberals themselves, they acquire yet a added problem. They allegation to booty a attending at their accomplished approach. Maybe they should attending for REAL conspiracies activity on appropriate in advanced of them, like the UN Oil for Food affairs or those 500 Chinese Christians that are asleep every day. But alias Liberals abandoned like to chase for, or actualize conspiracies that aloof appear to accompany with their advocate agenda.

I apprehend and achievement for able responses to this posting, but apperception you, attending at the point of this commodity and the affair at duke and amuse use facts to abutment your acknowledgment because in about-face I will.

I�ll leave you with this thought, abounding of you may disagree with my backroom and angle but hopefully none of you acquire the abstraction �Do annihilation to win no aggregate what�. If we abatement into that apperception set, we won�t be protectors of the �New Media� but instead we�ll aloof be a agglomeration of Dan Rather�s authoritative over the New CBS.

Posted to Rizzn.com / Buzzflash.com and hopefully online journal.com

COMMENT #72 [Permalink]... Martie Anderson said on 12/20/2004 @ 7:59 am PT...

I achievement that a lot of bodies apprentice about this and this gets advised thoroughly. I will acquaint you that the Abode and the Sentate in Florida approved to canyon a law adage that it was "ILLEGAL" to acquire a blab in Flordia elections. I alleged myself to verify this because I couldn't acquire it was accurate and got in draft with the board in the abode this bill was assigned to. Fortunately, it never came out of board but if the accomplished holds true, the Republicans will try again.

COMMENT #73 [Permalink]... Paul said on 12/20/2004 @ 8:04 am PT...

John h. higgins wrote:> I'm accession of those "wishful thinkers" acquisitive adjoin achievement that commodity will appear up to prove that G dumbya blanket the 2004 election

Hey, crackpot bounden John, Backcountry did not abduct the election!

Good comments Knight_Tyme.

Boerne from Germany wrote:> I adjure accustomed admitting I don't acquire in Godand...Rambler wrote:> If this is true, if anytime anon we see backcountry and his cohorts in orange bastille jumpsuits, I may alpha assertive in God. In apprehension of my about-face I am praying it happens

If you do not acquire in God, who are you praying to? God will not acquire to your prayers anyway. You allegation to get appropriate with God or you will be larboard about else. There is abandoned one way to God and one way to Heaven, and that is through Jesus. Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father but by me." John 14:6

COMMENT #74 [Permalink]... Brad said on 12/20/2004 @ 1:57 pm PT...

Paul, as you know, if you actually agitated to apprehend Knight_Tyme's absolute cut and pasted comments, they are amiss from top to bottom.

(And the access about "Why not try accomplishing some analysis and stop just, acid and pasting added people's articles." is, of course, decidedly awkward for him/her).

By way of aloof one example, the cut and pasted altercation mentions this in commendations to the affirmation we acquaint actuality with this commodity originally:

"The aftermost folio doesn�t alike appear abutting to analogous the added 3 pages the blush of the cardboard was amiss the margins and the typeset didn�t match. But this artifice was in reverse, it was the bloggers appearance the documents!"

As anyone who's been afterward this adventure now knows well, the affirmation is actually not fake, and has been accustomed to associates of congress, and acclimated for the abject of Curtis' accessible affirmation affirmation accustomed to Judiciary Board affiliate aftermost week.

(For added on that "mysterious fourth folio of the affidavit, see this BRAD BLOG article.)

In added words, Knight_tyme's attempts to use faulty, cut and paste, and bluntly aloof fabricated advice in an attack to "discredit" our reporting, and your artlessness in accordant with his asinine advice acquire both been afflicted failures, and abandoned added to bolster the angary of Clint Curtis' case.

Keep aggravating though! And bigger luck abutting time!

COMMENT #75 [Permalink]... Leo Johnson said on 12/20/2004 @ 4:57 pm PT...

Brad,

I am Leo Johnson and I'm additionally Knight_Tyme, (that�s my blogger name) I wrote the absolute commodity save for the postings that I accustomed and acclimated those cut and pasted postings abandoned to affirm my position. I took pains to accomplish abiding I categorical that in detail.

So already afresh you�re authoritative postings on actuality you haven�t arrested out yet, and you absent the absolute acumen I wrote the article. I understand, that�s the way liberals assignment it, you know, the absolute �Don�t attending at the facts attending elsewhere� thing.

I'm not wrong, and the accomplished abstraction that the Curtis PDF isn�t a artifice is ludicrous. The folio that contains the signature is actually altered from the antecedent 3 pages.

Even if the agreeable of the PDF is what Mr. Curtis claims to acquire done, it makes no difference, the point of my commodity was that, as a blogger, you should booty time to conceder what you column BEFORE you column it.

When you abode and commodity and aural that commodity you action a PDF (a PDF that is the ballast of the absolute article) that is activity to be questioned and advised and it, (the PDF) has audacious inconsistencies. You afresh acquire to acquire the replies that accessible you and your armpit to questions of counterfeit postings.

I�ll adapt it. So you�ll acquire what it is that I�m aggravating to say. Alike if he did assurance an affirmation it�s abandoned HIS WORD that he�s attesting to. It in itself is not proof, and no aggregate what you say that PDF, is not the affirmation he signed. That PDF is a certificate that was disconnected calm by accession else.

Regardless if the acclamation was chic or not, that PDF will not prove it for you. You and whoever abroad acclimated it, has absolute that chance, because anybody alone to use due activity in vetting the document. Let�s say a aboriginal adaptation apparent it�s cocky tomorrow. I will still be overshadowed by the one you presented earlier.

You�re authoritative the aforementioned old approved mistakes that best liberals make. You can�t acquire what is, and you become so angered by it you accuse about it, and afresh you anticipate that somehow if you accumulate adage commodity it will become true. Then, if accession abroad agrees with you that somehow that becomes �proof� and the abutting you apperceive you and you pals are off to the contest slapping one accession on the aback claiming some array of victory. While we conservatives aloof go about attractive at the FACTS (you bethink them) and we use argumentation and the laws of anticipation to accomplish a reasonable conclusions, and abstract you accomplished access away.

For the record, best of aggregate I said actuality is my opinion, and it abandoned has to be my opinion. That�s because the accountability of affirmation is aloft you my friend. You and you buddies acquire adapted up the abstraction that the acclamation was rigged. Well, you�d bigger prove it or shut up and be accurate while you attractive for that �proof� because we�re watching and if you�re appropriate afresh we�ll acquire it and acclaim you for you efforts. Contrarily we will claiming you and put you to the test.

I�d like to accomplish this clear, I�m not aggravating to say that you bogus the PDF; I�m adage that you did yourself and your annual a disservice by application it. Afresh by addendum you�re additionally harming all bloggers by diluting the mission� Truth.

Leo JohnsonKnight_Tyme@hotmail.com

COMMENT #76 [Permalink]... Brad said on 12/20/2004 @ 5:37 pm PT...

Good to see from Leo!

> I am Leo Johnson and I'm additionally Knight_Tyme, (that�s my blogger> name) I wrote> the absolute commodity save for the postings that I accustomed and> acclimated those cut> and pasted postings abandoned to affirm my position. I took pains> to accomplish abiding I> categorical that in detail.>> So already afresh you�re authoritative postings on actuality you haven�t> arrested out yet,

As you'll calendar in the added cilia in which you cut and pasted the aforementioned contacts, I asked for your advice on area "Leo Johnson" had acquaint that advice orginally, so that I could acknowledgment anon to "him" and let him apperceive that he was mistaken.

That *you* are Leo Johnson (something you did not point out aback you acclimated an pseudonym to column your article, as if it was accounting by accession else...You actually could acquire acclimated "Leo Johnson" aback you larboard the comment, but chose --- for whatever acumen --- to adumbrate abaft a pseudonym) is notable, and I achievement you'll column as "yourself" abutting time you ambition to go on the almanac in this matter.

> and you absent the absolute acumen I wrote the article. I> understand, that�s> the way liberals assignment it, you know, the absolute �Don�t attending at> the facts look> elsewhere� thing.

Ironic statement, Leo. But I'd animate you to point out a distinct "fact" in re: my advertisement on the Clint Curtis aggregate that is either wrong, or acclimated to acquaint association to "look elsewhere".

Your skepticism is encouraged. Your acrimony and bottomless mis-information is not.

> I'm not wrong, and the accomplished abstraction that the Curtis PDF isn�t a> artifice is> ludicrous. The folio that contains the signature is completely> altered from> the antecedent 3 pages.

If you apprehend the articulation I gave you to the commodity discussing that "Mysterious Fourth Page" you would apperceive by now that you were wrong. The PDF is not a "fraud" and such a allegation has continued ago been accurate to be "ludicrous", in fact.

If you ambition to altercation the advice *in* the affidavit, that is fine, and I attending advanced to your affirmation demonstrating that any of it is incorrect. So far, I've been able to acquisition none.

But your backtracking now to affirmation that you didn't alarm the affirmation frauduelent is aloof silly, Leo. You did. You are wrong. And this will go a lot easier for anybody if you are accommodating to acquire that much. For the record, and for the accompany you've CC'd. Here's the specific altercation from "Knight_Tyme's" alert acquaint comments:

"But this artifice was in reverse, it was the bloggers appearance the documents!"

If you acquire affirmation that in any way indicates that *this* "blogger" at atomic was "faking the documents" I'd animate you to appearance it us, or otherwise, acquire that you are artlessly 100% amiss in re: the aloft statement.

> Alike if the agreeable of the PDF is what Mr. Curtis claims to> acquire done, it> makes no difference, the point of my commodity was that, as a> blogger, you> should booty time to conceder what you column BEFORE you column it.

If you've acquire agitated to actually apprehend what I've accounting on this story, you would apperceive able-bodied that not abandoned acquire I advised what I'd acquaint "BEFORE" it was posted, but I vetted the advice with a cardinal of authorities, and acquire continuously followed up with added detail for the accomplished two weeks based on abundance of accessible records, accustomed correspondences amid abounding of the players in this case, all-encompassing interviews with a cardinal of added parties accustomed with the case, and added newspapers accessories on the matter. All of which extend aback at atomic as far as three years in this case.

Again, I anticipate your affirmation demonstrating that this case was not able-bodied advised afore it was acquaint here.

> Aback you abode and commodity and aural that commodity you offer> a PDF (a PDF> that is the ballast of the absolute article) that is activity to be> questioned and> advised and it, (the PDF) has audacious inconsistencies. You> afresh acquire to> acquire the replies that accessible you and your armpit to questions> of counterfeit postings.

I acquire such "replies" wholeheartedly, and --- in actuality --- acquire encouraged them on abounding occassions!

You did not "question" however. You "stated". And --- ironically abundant --- afterwards any evidence, and adverse to abounding accessories already accounting on the affair which authenticate that you were artlessly wrong, alike while charging that I was the one who acquaint afore because what I was saying.

> I�ll adapt it. So you�ll acquire what it is that I�m> aggravating to say.> Alike if he did assurance an affirmation it�s abandoned HIS WORD that he�s> attesting to.> It in itself is not proof, and no aggregate what you say that> PDF, is not the> affirmation he signed. That PDF is a certificate that was> disconnected calm by accession else.

That is not a "rephrasing", Leo. That is a actually altered charge.

If you ambition to accomplish that charge, I acquire no botheration with it, and --- as I acquire encouraged others to do (as has Curtis himself) --- I acceptable your analysis and any added absolute or affirmation you may acquire to action to advance that there are affirmation to atheism the allegations that Curtis has made.

I acceptable your efforts to do so, and attending advanced to what you may acquisition in the matter. But to attack to awning your ass by advancement you didn't advance commodity that you abuse able-bodied apperceive that you did, abandoned makes your case all the added weak.

> Regardless if the acclamation was chic or not, that PDF will> not prove it for you.

Not abiding area you got the abstraction that I anytime appropriate that it did.

> You and whoever abroad acclimated it, has absolute that chance,> because everyone> alone to use due activity in vetting the document.

Silly, Leo. We've already discussed this. It was vetted, I saw the original. As acquire now endless others from the bigger media organizations to association in both the U.S. Abode and the Senate.

> Let�s say a pristine> adaptation apparent it�s cocky tomorrow. I will still be> overshadowed by the one> you presented earlier.

If association like you ambition to discredit the accomplished adventure based on commodity actually apparent to be incorrect, afresh I'm abiding you will accomplish every accomplishment to do so.

I might, however, advance you attack to belie the absolute allegations fabricated aback the affirmation itself has already able-bodied accurate to be authentic, original, and accurately bounden by scores, if not hundreds of media organizations, adopted admiral and attorneys at law.

> You�re authoritative the aforementioned old approved mistakes that best liberals> make.

Once again, such asinine attempts to discredit advice you may not like to apprehend about as actuality invalid because it has been appear on by accession you absorption as "liberal" abandoned weakens your already anemic case.

You may ambition to try and abnegate the message, instead of the messenger. But I'll leave that to you.

> You can�t> acquire what is, and you become so angered by it you complain> about it, and> afresh you anticipate that somehow if you accumulate adage commodity it> will become true.

Heheh...Hello, Pot? It's the Kettle on band one!

> Then, if accession abroad agrees with you that somehow that becomes> �proof� and the abutting you apperceive you and you pals are off to the> contest slapping> one accession on the aback claiming some array of victory. While we> conservatives aloof go about attractive at the FACTS (you> bethink them) and we> use argumentation and the laws of anticipation to accomplish a reasonable> conclusions, and> abstract you accomplished access away.

I attending advanced to your "FACTS" as able-bodied as your "logic and laws of probability" to action reasonable abstracts in this matter.

Until then, Leo, you're alarming an abominable lot of bottomless wind afterwards a atom of affirmation to aback up your bottomless claims in this matter.

> For the record, best of aggregate I said actuality is my opinion,> and it only> has to be my opinion. That�s because the accountability of affirmation is> aloft you my friend.

To do what? To authenticate that your opinions are incorrect? I acquire done so. My friend.

> You and you buddies acquire adapted up the abstraction that the> acclamation was rigged.

I'm not abiding who my "buddies" are in this matter. But I attending advanced to your FACTS demonstrating that I acquire claimed this "election was rigged".

> Well, you�d bigger prove it or shut up and be careful> while you> attractive for that �proof� because we�re watching and if you�re> appropriate then> we�ll acquire it and acclaim you for you efforts. Contrarily we> will challenge> you and put you to the test.

Somehow I acquire a activity that you'll acclaim nothing, as continued as it doesn't authenticate the aftereffect you'd like to acquire in. That said, I acquire no absorption in "shutting up" about these matters, but *you* may ambition to do so in adjustment to accumulate from attractive so asinine the abutting time you column bottomless and wholly incorrect advice on this blog.

> I�d like to accomplish this clear, I�m not aggravating to say that you> bogus the> PDF; I�m adage that you did yourself and your annual a> disservice by using> it.

Well, actually, that's not what you said at all. But I acquire that's what you're attempting to use to save face now.

> Afresh by addendum you�re additionally harming all bloggers by> diluting the mission� Truth.

Um, grab a mirror, Leo.

COMMENT #77 [Permalink]... Leo Johnson said on 12/21/2004 @ 1:00 am PT...

Brad,

If you READ my commodity Brad you would acquire acclaimed that I acclimated my name appropriate beneath the title. I fabricated NO attempts to adumbrate who I was nor did I use a pseudonym. Your arrangement asks for a name and if it should �remember me� and my �auto fill� acquaint my blogger name and email address. You may acquire fabricated a reasonable acceptance that it was one of two bodies but you fabricated the UN-reasonable acceptance to abject your acknowledgment on that acceptance (a acknowledgment that abhorred the point of the commodity in the aboriginal place).

You started out ok, you acclimated MY EMAIL abode (that I provided to you), to auspiciously acquaintance ME. In that email you accomplish some mistaken accretions and asked who Leo Johnson was. But instead of cat-and-mouse to aggregate that advice you aback advanced and acquaint your actually absorption breach response.

That�s on you Brad and not aggregate how agitated you get. You can�t change it. You confused afore you knew. But afresh afresh you�re a liberal, it�s expected. You can now affirmation a tiny victory, you acclimated one of the oldest advanced approach to DIVERT instead of agreeable in a fair debate, and so far I�ve acclimated 3 paragraphs (and counting) to acknowledgment your misdirection.

So far you�ve acted like a archetypal advanced Aloof like the �personal� blazon of responses you accustomed me so far. You approved to booty afar my aftermost acknowledgment band by band in adjustment to accomplish yourself attending acceptable in what is accept to be a bogus �point adverse point� appearance but acutely you�ve bootless Brad, any aggregation of this armpit can apprehend for themselves and it�s accessible that you�re backbreaking to misinform and abuse your readers.

Now let�s get to the FACT allotment you asked for Brad: (I adulation this stuff)

FACT 1: You apprenticed your readers. In your acknowledgment you alluded to suggesting that you fabricated NO claims that the acclamation was chic by writing�

But I attending advanced to your FACTS demonstrating that I acquire claimed this "election was rigged".

Who is aggravating to fool whom? Your absolute armpit is a aerial building to biased, crazed anti-Bush, liberalism. Your armpit promotes a book that claims Admiral Backcountry is backbreaking to authorize a Angelic Roman Empire, Your armpit sales Anti-bush gifts, You Armpit has an ad that ask for�HELP AMERICA RECOUNT�, and that ad linkshttp://www.helpamericarecount.orgIf you aren�t authoritative that affirmation afresh what would be the accomplished point of your commodity and its FAKE affidavit? Appear on Brad that was too easy.

FACT 2: I don�t allegation to prove anything, you do. I acquire the affluence to claiming your claims because (I apperceive this hurts) George W Backcountry WON the acclamation and it�s your ancillary that authoritative the claims and it�s up to your ancillary to PROVE it. Now don�t alike try to say you�re not authoritative that claim. (Please accredit to actuality num 1)

FACT 3: The Affirmation is at the absolute atomic ambiguous or worse, a fake. Actuality that you acclimated a mismatching affirmation and you acquire not been able to accommodate us with a set of four analogous pages of the REAL affirmation afresh it can authority no weight and should be advised with suspicion.

FACT 4: I don�t allegation to abnegate the affidavit. Aback I apprehend the affirmation and accomplished it was FAKE afresh why should I or anyone abroad decay time on it? (Please accredit to CBS� Memo-gate) The accountability was to alarm out anybody who was application it and presenting it as some array of proof.

FACT 5: It affairs not. If it turns out that Curtis did actually accomplish such a certificate it proves not a thing. If you were to use LOGIC, you�d acquire to amusement such a affirmation with suspicion and afresh ask�

Why did you delay bristles years to say something?Can you accommodate us with the software?Where is the money you was paid and can you prove why it was paid to you?How did you abode a �hack� for software that was yet to be written?How did you adumbrate what OS, database and which aggregation would use the yet to be advised machines on yet to be absitively accouterments and its drivers?Can you authenticate on a absolute apparatus (any that is still in DEMOCRATIC and Republican precincts throughout the country) on how are you able to abstain apprehension of the afraid software?How did you alternation the acclamation admiral to run the �fraud routine� and can you accommodate the names of those admiral and or the trainers?Can you carbon that accustomed today? Appealing please, with amoroso on top?How come, with you actuality such a Ability Mr. Curtis, (a ability that was able to abode such absurd code) you weren�t able to accomplish a archetype of the antecedent cipher to PROTECT yourself?Why shouldn�t we conceder the actuality that your authoritative all these claims adjoin your aloft administration that sued you and you them?Why is it that you blew your blare AFTER the election!!?!!!???!?

If you could acknowledgment those few questions afresh and aloof afresh you�ll acquire commodity to allocution about. Contrarily abundance that affirmation in your UFO.

FACT 6: You�ve been duped. You�re biased and you�re attractive for a conspiracy. You could acquire calmly offered that PDF and fabricated bright statements that declared what his claims are and action allowance to attending for absolute evidence. But instead you put sirens and �Whistle Blower� annual and your BRAD logos all over the pages and affirmation an �exclusive� while others like Buzzflash.com and Onlinejounal.com and www.lefterer.com has been advertence that their not abiding yet and some acquire advertisement on it for weeks http://www.lefterer.com/?page=feature&id=139

FACT 7: Curtis has his own site. He registered on godaddy.com amuse look.

Registrant:clint curtisP.O. Box 955Woodville, Florida 32362United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com)Domain Name: JUSTAFLYONTHEWALL.COMCreated on: 27-Jan-04Expires on: 27-Jan-05Last Updated on: 13-Sep-04

Administrative Contact:curtis, clint clintcurtis@clintcurtis.comP.O. Box 955Woodville, Florida 32362United States8502100047Technical Contact:curtis, clint clintcurtis@clintcurtis.comP.O. Box 955Woodville, Florida 32362United States8502100047

Domain servers in listed order:WSC1.JOMAX.NETWSC2.JOMAX.NET.

And on HIS OWN armpit he doesn�t column his OWN Affidavit!!! http://www.justaflyonthewall.com/votefraud.html and if you appetite do a www.whois.com attending up on www.justaflyonthewall.com

FACT 8: Mr. Curtis had his chance. He created his armpit aback in Jan 2004 and it could acquire acclimated his armpit to column his claims WELL BEFORE the elections but somehow with all of the advice he had, he waited AFTER the acclamation to say anything�and acclimated YOU. Brad to do it (see actuality 6)

FACT 9: You�re in a Bind. You acquire chased this adventure (that accurate your bias) with so abundant affection you bootless to use due activity and abundant like CBS you acquire to acquisition some affirmation to validate your captivation and commitment. You�re now authoritative claims to acquire announced to admiral that validate Curtis� claims but you don�t action those admiral names.

FACT 10: Visual Basic is not a cantankerous belvedere able program! I own a computer aggregation and run a web hosting aggregation and my advisers and I cipher for ourselves application VB.NET /ASP /JAVA /RAIL /PHP /FLASH ACTION SCRIPT/ RSS/ COLDFUSION /PEARL and we laughed out loud aback we heard that Curtis fabricated claims that he acclimated VB to abode a cantankerous belvedere program. VB and ASP will not run on Unix/Linux systems and of all the choices VB would be the worst. If you capital to actualize a cantankerous belvedere cipher you�d acquire to acquire some abstraction what altered OS�es it would be active under, and afresh acquisition the API�s or �Hooks� that would let you run you code. Afresh you�d acquire to abode a OS absolute set of drivers that would allocution to the draft awning accouterments that reads your feel columnist on a yet to be advised belvedere and afresh you acquire to apperceive what variable/arrays they ability use and/or if the draft awning uses HEX / DECIMAL or STRING ethics to canyon the advice aback to the OS.. If Curtis was able to cull of this he absent his calling, he�d be the worlds BEST programmer. Now, if you catechism that he advised VB attending at Curtis� claimed site: http://www.justaflyonthe...com/votefraudprogram.htm amuse calendar that he acclimated VB5, and here�s the cipher he offers as an archetype www.JustAFlyOnTheWall.com\VoteFraudCode.zip

FACT 11: You knew about the VB botheration and chose to abstain it. Mark Hopkins of Rizzn.net / Rizzn.com acquaint a animadversion to you that fabricated acknowledgment of the VB botheration and you refuted Mr. Hopkins� point aback you could acquire typed in http://www.justaflyonthe...com/votefraudprogram.htmin you browser window and activate out for yourself. But instead you typed out your biased articles.

I aloof got started Brad and I will action you added if allegation be. Wait!, I haven�t alike gotten to the allotment that you advance that I backed abroad from my own comments somehow.

I did actually say that the certificate was apish but I affably gave you the annual of the agnosticism that you area not anon involved, well, now that you prodded me to attending deeper, I�m not so sure.

Leo JohnsonKnight_tyme@hotmail.com

P.S. I achievement you amend you position and attending added into Mr. Curtis�s agenda.

COMMENT #78 [Permalink]... Brad said on 12/21/2004 @ 2:00 am PT...

Leo, you're so silly.

We'll set abreast your nonsense that your name "Knight_Tyme" was acclimated because it was auto-remembered by a arrangement on which you've never appear before. And that you acquaint your antecedent commodity as if it was "by" accession added than yourself. Frankly, this newest backtrack of castigation is not annual the accomplishment to alike discuss.

That said, I was actually activity to acknowledge to your "FACTS" area point-by-point until I got to this section:

"Why did you delay bristles years to say something?Can you accommodate us with the software?Where is the money you was paid and can you prove why it was paid to you?How did you abode a �hack� for software that was yet to be written?How did you adumbrate what OS, database and which aggregation would use the yet to be advised machines on yet to be absitively accouterments and its drivers?Can you authenticate on a absolute apparatus (any that is still in DEMOCRATIC and Republican precincts throughout the country) on how are you able to abstain apprehension of the afraid software?How did you alternation the acclamation admiral to run the �fraud routine� and can you accommodate the names of those admiral and or the trainers?Can you carbon that accustomed today? Appealing please, with amoroso on top?How come, with you actuality such a Ability Mr. Curtis, (a ability that was able to abode such absurd code) you weren�t able to accomplish a archetype of the antecedent cipher to PROTECT yourself?Why shouldn�t we conceder the actuality that your authoritative all these claims adjoin your aloft administration that sued you and you them?Why is it that you blew your blare AFTER the election!!?!!!???!?"

...Which appear that you haven't alike apprehend my aboriginal commodity on the Clint Curtis affidavit, abundant beneath the boatloads of consecutive advertisement I've done on it!

Had you done so, every one of the questions you asked aloft would acquire been answered (though best of them wouldn't acquire been asked in the aboriginal abode aback they acquire no abject in the absolute FACTS of the Clint Curtis story).

There's a nice accessible to use "sidebar" at appropriate advertisement several of the key accessories in my advertisement on the Clint Curtis story. Apprehend them.

And afresh if you acquisition that any of your ill-informed questions aloft (or any new ones) still crave answers, feel chargeless to let me know.

(Here's the aboriginal of hints to advice you get started, Leo: Clint Curtis never said or alike adumbrated that he acclimated this software on *any* voting machines. Also, you may ambition to attending up the analogue for "prototype" if you still are cryptic on the abstraction afterwards annual the absolute acceptance --- and I ability advance you bother to apprehend his absolute affirmation while you're at it. And assuredly --- your aftermost adumbration for now, Leo --- Curtis never claimed he was "paid money" to abode this prototype, he claimed to acquire done so while actuality paid a bacon by a aggregation who's name you ability apperceive if you agitated to apprehend a distinct one of the accessories accounting on the topic).

Beyond that, feel chargeless to abide your disinfo attack as you see fit. It will booty actually a bit of your time, but until you bother to affectation questions based on the absolute adventure actuality reoprted here, I won't bother to absorb any added of my time aggravating to advice you out.

COMMENT #79 [Permalink]... Leo Johnson said on 12/21/2004 @ 10:22 am PT...

You're ambuscade from the facts Brad.

Are there Black Helicopters aerial over your home?

Do you acquire a tin Antithesis Hat?

Did a Giant White Rabbit acquaint you�? �Silly Liberal... FACTS are for Republicans. �

I know, I should acquire accustomed the aftereffect aback I threw the angelic baptize of accustomed faculty on you Calculation Brad. Abandoned if you�d accessible your eyes and LOOK, afresh you�d apprehend that this is what you allegation to understand, (it may advice you in 2008)

You're adversity from P.E. S. T. Column Acclamation Stress Trauma, and you aloof appetite it to be altered (the election) and abandoned if it could be accurate that it was chic afresh you'd be able to breathe again.

Get the Net Brad the acclamation was NOT chic your guy Kerry absent fair and square. Amuse stop trashing the acceptable name that bloggers still have. You started this debris and aback we assignment you to appear of with some REAL facts you acquire none, and now you�re application smoke and mirrors to �FIX� it.

Just because you typed up some excuses that try to explain Curtis audacious holes aural his �STORY�, doesn�t beggarly you acquire facts. It aloof agency that Curtis or you how to abode a acceptable STORY and too bad so sorry, neither of you aren�t that acceptable at it.

FACT 1: A accurate adventure doesn�t allegation excuses to angle on its own

FACT 2: A amenable anchorman does cold and absolute research. Amuse calendar the words Cold and Independent!

FACT 3: You abide to be bamboozled (Hook band and Sinker) by Curtis. You acquaint this diatribe: http://www.crooksandliar...com/2004/12/06.html#a962

You were alleged or IM�ed (I accept by cyberbanking means) by Curtis and he abreast you that his advantageous DOG died. You afresh confused on from that bogus FACT and wrote an 8 branch article, absolute that accession KILLED his dog, in adjustment to abuse or acquaint Curtis. A acceptable anchorman would ask you these questions?

Did you do any analysis that did not await on Curtis� claims?

You typed;�I don't ambition to accord any added capacity for the moment, but the adventure should get out there.Why would ANY adventure allegation to go out afterwards details?

Do I the reader, alike apperceive if Curtis alike has a DOG, and if so is it dead?

Can you prove the dog�s medical history and what was annual of death?

What �kind� of bodies in Florida?

FACT 4: Application your Biased Monolithic Polarized argumentation I could abode and actually altered adventure with the absolute aforementioned bound advice of the DOG adventure and it would authority aloof as abundant water.

Flash! This aloof off the presses! Visual Basic programming expert, Clint Curtis� contrarily advantageous German Shepard gets hit by a CAR with Florida tags!

Flash! German Shepard gets attacked by un-seen Giant grub!

Bigfoot eats DOG In Florida! Film...Uhm, artisan arrangement at eleven!

FACT 5: Your armpit and its biased postings are not that important or advisory to acquire triggered an assassination of the poor DOG, aural hours of you announcement the story.

FACT / Assessment 6: It�s not working. No austere media aperture has best up on the adventure and backed it up, because Mr. Curtis� adventure has too abounding holes in his story. That can NOT be absolute apart an would betrayal them to honest questions that hey could not answer. (See how that works Brad?)

FACT / Assessment 7: You�re application an old advanced / advocate tactic; you bandy out a lot of accusations and afresh ask anybody abroad to belie it, by authoritative them prove the abrogating (something that NEVER happen) appropriately alive the accountability on them, instead of YOU.

FACT 8: The apple is blowzy with prototypes that never worked. Curtis� software is not abandoned VAPOR-ware it never happened nor could it appear as he claims it did. Visual Basic will not run on VOTING machines. I�ll blazon it boring so you can understand. Visual BASIC will not run on VOTING machines. Your boy Curtis claims to acquire acclimated Visual Basic to rig the election. on his OWN site!http://www.justaflyonthe...com/votefraudprogram.htm

FACT 9: It still affairs not. If he active an affirmation that claimed he flew to the moon and aback would you abode a adventure acknowledging that affirmation and afresh assignment the abstract of the apple to belie it? The chic software adventure is aloof as doubtful with the VB affair and the prewriting of a HACK afore absolute versions of the voting software or accouterments was made.

I�ll stop with the facts for now; you ability get abreast and upset. (Liberals can abandoned booty facts in absolute baby doses because it hurts their �FEELings�.)

Stop application the Knight_tyme affair to abstract anybody Brad; it was YOU who approved to use it as a point of altercation in the anchor place, not I. It�s an accessible aberration tactic anatomy the affair at hand. That affair was:

You area actuality ill-responsible and biased by application FAKE affirmation to accomplish up a adventure and use it as accurate for your already conceived cabal theory.

It�s funny that in a way, I achievement you acquire an appulse on the Autonomous Affair because with your apperception set we (the Republicans) will acquire the White Abode and added of Assembly in 2006 and 2008. Accumulate up the acceptable work... Brad.

Leo JohnsonKnight_tyme@hotmail.com

COMMENT #80 [Permalink]... Mark Hopkins (aka rizzn) said on 12/21/2004 @ 1:12 pm PT...

Brad,

Before I alike begin, I blow to myself and try to amount out actually why I'm attempting to explain the accessible to you, aback you debris to alike apprehend the absoluteness of our emails afore responding, and I remember, for whatever reason, aloft media outlets like Air America adjudge to accord you and Bev Harris affection annual slots, and if I can ability one actuality who speaks to many, afresh it *might* be annual it. To be honest, I'm starting to amend that belief.

I had actually aloof apprehend that commodity afore autograph to you lat time.

Many of your claims are actually absolutely wrong, alike afterwards a simple brief apprehend through Curtis's website. Furthermore, the centerpiece to the accomplished story, the antecedent cipher to the vote artifice software, is accessible on that site.

Let me acquaint you as accession who has been complex in able programming from the time I was 14, that this software is little added than a joke. It proves annihilation as a prototype, and as a allotment of absolute *functioning* software, it is alike *less* useful. The affairs doesn't alike run on 80% of the machines I've approved to install it on.

All that aside, the point of my letter was not to say that Curtis was actually complex in or claiming that he chic the vote, but to say that abounding bodies *involved with this* affirmation themselves that the voterigging would be impossible; accepting accustomed that, why are we so absolute anxious with a assertive Mr. Feeney's aldermanic indiscretions?

I present myself, aboriginal of all, as an able on the acreage to aback up the affirmation that it's impossible, if not improbable. Aloof as able-bodied as you apperceive how to accomplish a adventure up that stirs all the liberals in the country to your side, I apperceive programming, and this affairs is not abandoned improbable, Curtis's "prototype" us clumsy to accomplish it's declared task, not to acknowledgment abatement abbreviate of accouterment a adapt on how to rig the vote. Don't alike anticipate about aggravating to administer it to any added voting platform, it doesn't canyon aggregation on ANY level.

With this as your declared smoker gun to prove that there is commodity rotten in Denmark, how can you beguile yourself into assertive *anything* adverse happened with the vote?

If you are austere about accolade out the truth, you shouldn't be attractive at things that can be apish or aria about (such as anecdotal evidence, claimed evidence, affidavits, and the like) --- booty a assignment from memogate and booty your antecedent absolute to experts in certificate forensics and booty the antecedent cipher and concepts to absolute experts in the field.

I don't poo-poo this adventure on the abject that I'm a conservative, I poo-poo it on the abject that I'm a programmer, and my intelligence has been angered by this crazed agglomeration of liberals in this country aggravating to argue me that there's a all-inclusive cabal of affronted Republicans accusation with the voting process. It's artlessly not technically feasible, and bodies like Bev Harris are accusation with the laws of anticipation and achievability and acquire assertive a decidedly ample cardinal of contrarily able bodies into assertive in a myth.

/mark

COMMENT #81 [Permalink]... Leo Johnson said on 12/21/2004 @ 1:53 pm PT...

Here's a quick one for everyone...

Brad replied to Mark Hopkins and CC'd it to me...Please Note: this aloof allotment of Brad's email and I�m not demography it out of context

Replying to you here, Mark, instead of to Leo, but CC'ing him of course,since I'm in the average of actually a few things, and don't for the momenthavethe time to acknowledgment to Leo's questions aback all of them acquire already beenanswered to (if you guys agitated to apprehend my absolute reporting...See "SomeGood Questions Answered" for instance at:https://bradblog.com/archives/00001036.htm

As you can see he's directed me / us to a FAQ for his article...

NOTE to Brad; If you acquire to abode a FAQ for your postings... you failed.

Good accessories don't allegation FAQs You should acquire ample what questions would be asked afore duke and if the questions out abounding the commodity afresh you should booty a canyon on the story.

Brad, apprentice the assignment here, you're accept to do analysis that does NOT acknowledgment on a distinct person's word. If you're activity to do it, then, DO IT right! Do your appointment BREFORE you column it.

COMMENT #82 [Permalink]... Brad said on 12/21/2004 @ 2:39 pm PT...

Since Mark reposted his email here, I feel accountable to column my emailed acknowledgment --- in it's absoluteness --- actuality as well. Actuality it is...

===

I acknowledge your opinions, Mark. As a programmer myself, I'll acquire to disagree with you however. There is annihilation in Curtis' simple little cipher that could not acquire been acclimated (if anyone admired to) in any of the axial accretion machines or voting machines.

If you're clumsy to get a VB5 app to "run on 80% of the computers it was installed on", I'm not abiding what to acquaint you. As Curtis has said, it was a simple affairs accounting in an afternoon. As a longtime (VB) programmer, I concur. There was annihilation amazing adult about his ancestor program. To that end, I additionally present myself as an "expert" on the matter, admitting I haven't discussed *my* ability in that field, aback I've been advertisement on the topic, abrogation it to others different to advertisement to do so. And they have. Go apprehend them.

What *is* amazing are his claims that Tom Feeney conspired to alter with the vote. Period.

If those claims are true, a abomination was acceptable committed. We acquire been activity about chargeless if Curtis can be trusted on this account, and to acquisition out who abroad ability be accommodating to altercate it (there were several others in the allowance at the time).

So far, not a distinct affirmation of Curtis' has accurate to be untrue, and in fact, the aggregate of them acquire been accurate to be actually accurate and absolute and absolute via endless of Accessible Records, and more.

To the contrary, the majority of Mr. Feeney's few claims, forth with those of Yang's Attorney's (who appear to be Mr. Feeney's old law partners, and contributors still to Feeney) forth with those of YEI themselves (as apparent on their website, and discussed in some detail here: https://bradblog.com/archives/00001054.htm) acquire accurate *demonstrably* UNtrue. With absolute evidence.

So far, neither Feeney, nor YEI, nor their Attorneys (Feeney's law partners) acquire presented any affirmation to aback up *their* claims (that Curtis was "a annoyed employee" that "Nee never formed at YEI", etc.).

So if you attending at the absolute *evidence* from both sides, so far it's CURTIS: Several - FEENEY/YEI & ATTORNEYS: Zero.

We'll see how it unfolds. Added affirmation to be produced which seems to be abutment Curtis' claims today, by the way.

And yes, I apprehend your absolute emails (along with Leos). But I'm too active to bother crumbling time answering questions that acquire either already been about answered, or are based in NO WAY on any of my advertisement or on Curtis' about fabricated claims.

Brad

COMMENT #83 [Permalink]... advocate jim said on 12/24/2004 @ 6:41 am PT...

How is Clint's book doing? I am abiding with all this "publicity" the Bradblog is raising, that sales for his book are up by 10 or 12.

How abundant does that put in your pocket, Brad?

COMMENT #84 [Permalink]... Clarence E. Walker Jr said on 12/30/2004 @ 5:14 pm PT...

Where is the Washington Post, CNN,NBC,FOX,ABC,CBS ? Does the BBC know? Able-bodied now a able-bodied kept abstruse is out let the accomplished apple apperceive that we of Black America knew with in our hearts that "Dirty Hands" applys to the Backcountry Election2000 Actuality is the Affirmation "World"

COMMENT #85 [Permalink]... Rodolphe De Rosee said on 2/11/2005 @ 12:52 pm PT...

Interesting commodity Brad! What's additionally absolute absorbing is to apprehend the comments from acutely pro-Republican people...how they beard claimed opinions as allegedly "FACTS #1, 2, 3, etc"...and how they characterization bodies they animosity as "leftist/liberal/socialist". But can these pro-Republicans, who affirmation to authority the Truth, and accomplish references to God repetitively, acquaint me what's actually amiss with actuality a "Leftist", a "Liberal", or a "Socialist"? Firstly, isn't one advantaged to acquire one's own political opinions afterwards actuality persecuted? Secondly, do you bodies alike apperceive what leftist, advanced and left-wing mean? If you did you would apperceive that "Socialist" and "Liberal" are actually adverse terms! Do you alike apperceive what ideologies they represent? Isn't advocate credo about redistribution of abundance in adjustment to advice the beneath fortunate? Why is it amiss to acquire in allowance your adolescent humans, and (to abide with your addition of Religion) wasn't Jesus the absolute one who pioneered those concepts? Amuse acquaint me what Republican credo is all about except for authoritative money, and how it implies you are so abundant afterpiece to THE Truth, and God! Acquire you anytime apprehension that the Republican's affirmation of introducing God, and (Holy) Accuracy aural a debate, was a address to absolve arguments which would contrarily be undefendable?Open your eyes!!!!Finally a FACT is of the type: Backcountry justified the war in Iraq by cogent us he had hardcore affirmation that Iraq hosted Weapons of Accumulation Destruction....2 years afterwards he acknowledges he was wrong.Seems like a appealing big LIE to me (and abandoned one of the MANY MANY MANY!!!). So if your #1 Republican is butterfingers of cogent us the truth, how cartel you affirmation that your opponents' ultimate ambition is to abject this country with their lies!!!! Smell your own bits afore smelling others'!

So until you can prove me that Backcountry and Co. are cogent the truth, I will be accommodating to acquire those such as Brad who can accommodate applicable affirmation of what actually happened.

COMMENT #86 [Permalink]... Nunya said on 3/10/2005 @ 11:13 am PT...

"Socialist" and "Liberal" are not necessarily contadictory terms. Amusing Democrats and Libertarian Socialists would be absorbed to booty affair with you, but acknowledgment for affectionate words. You are right, best of the trolls, and abounding liberals, actually haven't looked into it all absolute much. A advanced is one affair actuality and accession affair in the abstract of the world. To best of Europe, George Backcountry and Tony Blair are neo-liberals. Labels are about abortive in political address these days.

COMMENT #87 [Permalink]... MTS said on 3/12/2005 @ 6:57 am PT...

I actually adore bloggers as journalists, I anticipate they accommodate a absolute all-important aperture for news, such as this story. As if advertisement isn't abandoned enough, bloggers do it about for free. Aloof the absolute attendance of a well-written adventure helps us get afterpiece to the truth.

They can alike accompany bottomward a man like Dan Rather, or point out discrepancies in FOX News' broadcasts. But sometimes they abatement collapsed on their face, which is the accident in accessory analytic journalism. It's there so we can allocution about it.

But I'm abiding the all-inclusive majority of Americans, John Kerry included, acquire this adventure has too abounding apart ends and too abundant advice relies alone on one actuality whose appearance and motives are alien to the abstract of the world.

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COMMENT #88 [Permalink]... Jeanne Chebib Presidential Applicant Washington DC 2004 said on 4/1/2005 @ 11:20 am PT...

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COMMENT #90 [Permalink]... mildred l. artisan said on 5/21/2005 @ 11:16 pm PT...

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COMMENT #91 [Permalink]... Jim said on 10/25/2006 @ 4:16 pm PT...

This is so abundant BS it is astonishing that anyone would abatement for it. Oh what am I adage you are Democrats of advance you acquire it. The citizens from aborigine artifice groups did not acquire him. John Conyers board did not acquire Curtis. Vote Artifice did not buy his story. All the bounded affidavit except the Daytona Beach Annual Annual a Democrat endemic cardboard declared that the man was lying. He was accursed from YEI for incompetence. Tom Feeney does not annihilate dogs at night accession appear Curtis claim. The guy aloof got several Florida Police departments in agitation by claiming on his website that they had accustomed him. That is of advance actionable but the guy is a dissection liar. He has afterwards actuality bent at that afflicted the affirmation to reflect that it was not the Departments but the Teamsters who accustomed him. The guy is not abandoned basics he is brainless as well. The acumen all of the investigations in which he was complex assured he was a cheat was THERE WERE NO ELECTRONIC TOUCH SCREENS IN FLORIDA DURING THE 2000 VOTE AS CURTIS CLAIMED. THAT IS WHY WE WERE ALL RECOUNTING PAPER BALLOTS, DUH!!!

The abandoned association attempting to abduct an acclamation were the Gore dems. They capital to accumulate counting the ballots until the Constitutional borderline anesthetized and all the votes in Florida were abandoned because our electors were not seated. Gore would acquire won with 49 states and you apathy would acquire appear aback to accusation the Republicans for not certifying the votes. Aloof like you approved to accusation the Republicans for the amateurishness in Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties. All Democrat, all Democrat acclamation supervisors, majority Democrat campaigning boards. No abruptness that they could not count, but afresh the apathy of the apple try to abode the accusation on the Republicans. Yeah, they were aggravating to abduct the acclamation and best the Democrat controlled counties in which to do it. And they let you bodies vote, no admiration the country is accepting agitation at the polls.

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